Re[6]: [tied] Re: Finnish KASKI

From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 53918
Date: 2008-02-21

At 12:56:58 PM on Thursday, February 21, 2008, Patrick Ryan
wrote:

> From: "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>

>> At 1:18:25 AM on Thursday, February 21, 2008, Patrick Ryan
>> wrote:

>>> But someone who uses /a/ instead of /aw/ for <Sean> will
>>> be misleading a lot of people.

>> ???

>> To me /aw/ is the diphthong in <how>, for instance, an
>> alternative representation to /aU/. Do you mean the vowel
>> of <dawn> or the like? Note that for a great many Americans
>> <Don> and <Dawn> are exact homonyms. (For me they're
>> [A]~[A.] and [O:], shifted many years ago from an original
>> frontish-central [a] and [A.]~[A], respectively.)

> You remember how dictionaries used to aid pronunciation
> with combinations of this kind - defined in advance, what
> harm?

But when you use slants, I expect a standard phonemic
notation, either IPA-based (possibly with Americanist
modifications) or some version of Trager-Smith. For
informal notations I usually use reverse slants, e.g.,
<fraud> \frawd\. (I notice that Merriam-Webster OnLine use
reverse slants for their traditional, U.S.-dictionary-style
pronunciation guides.)

[...]

> As for your new vocalism, I am glad you switched. [A.]~[A]
> sounds little too country for me.

Eh? My original variety was anything but rustic -- pretty
standard educated GenAm, to the extent that there ever was
such a thing. (Now it could probably be described as very
eastern Atlantic.)

Brian