From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53919
Date: 2008-02-21
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
To: "Patrick Ryan" <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:46 PM
Subject: Re[6]: [tied] Re: Finnish KASKI
> At 12:56:58 PM on Thursday, February 21, 2008, Patrick Ryan
> wrote:
>
> > From: "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
>
> >> At 1:18:25 AM on Thursday, February 21, 2008, Patrick Ryan
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> But someone who uses /a/ instead of /aw/ for <Sean> will
> >>> be misleading a lot of people.
>
> >> ???
>
> >> To me /aw/ is the diphthong in <how>, for instance, an
> >> alternative representation to /aU/. Do you mean the vowel
> >> of <dawn> or the like? Note that for a great many Americans
> >> <Don> and <Dawn> are exact homonyms. (For me they're
> >> [A]~[A.] and [O:], shifted many years ago from an original
> >> frontish-central [a] and [A.]~[A], respectively.)
>
> > You remember how dictionaries used to aid pronunciation
> > with combinations of this kind - defined in advance, what
> > harm?
>
> But when you use slants, I expect a standard phonemic
> notation, either IPA-based (possibly with Americanist
> modifications) or some version of Trager-Smith. For
> informal notations I usually use reverse slants, e.g.,
> <fraud> \frawd\. (I notice that Merriam-Webster OnLine use
> reverse slants for their traditional, U.S.-dictionary-style
> pronunciation guides.)
>
> [...]
>
> > As for your new vocalism, I am glad you switched. [A.]~[A]
> > sounds little too country for me.
>
> Eh? My original variety was anything but rustic -- pretty
> standard educated GenAm, to the extent that there ever was
> such a thing. (Now it could probably be described as very
> eastern Atlantic.)
>
> Brian
>
>
>