Re: Can new Algor i thms reveal the

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53607
Date: 2008-02-18

Ringe's statistical work was thoroughly discredited - by Nichols, I think.

No more Ringe-around-the-Rosey !


Patrick


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Can new Algor i thms reveal the


> As I recall, many people rejected Ringe's tree-model
> --including Trask. Big deal.
>
> --- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard
> > Wordingham" <richard@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud"
> > <fournet.arnaud@>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Mayuresh Kelkar drew our attention to:
> > > http://www.hjholm.de/Holm%20Arbo%20old.pdf
> > >
> > > One of its figures is the following map:
> > >
> > > > The map is interesting :
> > > >
> > > > http://www.hjholm.de/SLRD-map.jpg
> > > >
> > > > You shot in your foot.
> > >
> > > No he didn't. Hans Holm's paper says that the
> > history depicted there
> > > was not proven. Mayursh was principally sharing
> > some graphics with
> > > us, not trying to make a point.
> >
> >
> > Holmes rejects or severly critizes the quantitative
> > methods used by
> > Gray, McMahon, Ringe in the "Arboreteum" paper. His
> > on SLR method does
> > not produce the first branch as Anatolian. The map
> > shown below
> >
> > http://www.hjholm.de/SLRD-map.jpg
> >
> > is based on that premise. Here is the problem. The
> > earliest
> > branching of Anatolian is I think unversally agreed
> > upon by IEL. How
> > important is this to maintain a norhtern Caspian
> > scenerio?
> >
> > M. Kelkar
> > >
> > > Richard.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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