Re: Can new Algor i thms reveal the

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
wrote:

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> Ringe's statistical work was thoroughly discredited - by Nichols, I

think.

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> No more Ringe-around-the-Rosey !
>
>
> Patrick

Gray-Atkinson's tree published in Nature shows Hittite as the earliest
branch also.

M. Kelkar

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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Can new Algor i thms reveal the
>
>
> > As I recall, many people rejected Ringe's tree-model
> > --including Trask. Big deal.
> >
> > --- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard
> > > Wordingham" <richard@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud"
> > > <fournet.arnaud@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mayuresh Kelkar drew our attention to:
> > > > http://www.hjholm.de/Holm%20Arbo%20old.pdf
> > > >
> > > > One of its figures is the following map:
> > > >
> > > > > The map is interesting :
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.hjholm.de/SLRD-map.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > You shot in your foot.
> > > >
> > > > No he didn't. Hans Holm's paper says that the
> > > history depicted there
> > > > was not proven. Mayursh was principally sharing
> > > some graphics with
> > > > us, not trying to make a point.
> > >
> > >
> > > Holmes rejects or severly critizes the quantitative
> > > methods used by
> > > Gray, McMahon, Ringe in the "Arboreteum" paper. His
> > > on SLR method does
> > > not produce the first branch as Anatolian. The map
> > > shown below
> > >
> > > http://www.hjholm.de/SLRD-map.jpg
> > >
> > > is based on that premise. Here is the problem. The
> > > earliest
> > > branching of Anatolian is I think unversally agreed
> > > upon by IEL. How
> > > important is this to maintain a norhtern Caspian
> > > scenerio?
> > >
> > > M. Kelkar
> > > >
> > > > Richard.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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