On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:04:57 -0000, "Francesco Brighenti"
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frabrig@...> wrote:
>--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
>> B[abaev]'s Temarunda analysis seems OK.
>
>On the contrary, to me its seems far-fetched:
>
>http://indoeuro.bizland.com/archive/article17.html
>"*tem-arun-da, 'mother of the Dark, or Black, Sea', where *tem-
>means Vedic tamas- 'darkness', *arun- is Vedic arna- 'a stormy sea',
>and *da- fits well to Sanskrit dhe- 'to breast-feed'. This makes
>temarunda really 'a mother of the sea'.
>
>However, Babev's source is O. Trubachev's article "Temarundam 'Mater
>Maris'" available online at
>
>http://groznijat.tripod.com/sci_lang/trubachev.htm
>
>The article is, unfortunately, in Russian. What does it say, in
>short?
>
It says that Sobolevskij was the first to point to a link
between Temarunda and *tem- "dark", but that Vasmer showed
that the Scythian name for the Black Sea was different,
containg Iranian *axs^aina "black, dark" (> Grk. Pontos
Axeinos). B. Nadel(') connected Temarunda with Anatolian
te-ma-aruna-dam ("and-mother-sea-??"). Trubachëv then
suggests the etymology *tem-arun-da: "dark-sea-wetnurse"
(cf. the Grk. name for the Sea of Azov "Maiotis" from maia
"mother, wetnurse"). He states that aruna "sea" can't be
Hittite/Anatolian here because Hitt. has dankui for "dark".
It also can't be Thracian/Cimmerian, because Thracian (for
the Black Sea) would have been *kirs-mar/mor- (which he
suggests as the etymon of the name Kimmerii <
*kir(s)-mar-jo-).
Trubachëv's *tem-arun-da: would then be the name given by
the local population, the Sindoi, which would have spoken an
Indic-like language (Kaba-thaxes < ..-taks.a; Nikaxin <
ni-kaks.-in = Skt. ni:-kaks.a-, *amb- "water", *dand-
"stone", *sar- "woman").
Not terribly convincing stuff. The Cimmerian etymology is
interesting, though, in the category "se non è vero, è ben
trovato".
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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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