Re: PS Emphatics

I agree there was a core group, probably originally
Turkic but they picked up or assimilated whoever they
could. But their elite seems to have heavily
intermarried with elites from other groups. So, in a
sense, they were a goulash and the orginally was the
paprika --a true anachronism, to be sure.
BTW: on Wikipedia, there is a reference to attempts to
prove Queen Elizabeth II is a descendant of Attila

--- george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

>
> --- Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
>
> > Supposedly it does mean "little father" and I've
> > read
> > it is from Germanic in popular sources --which
> > generally
> > tend to claim the Huns are Turkish, and those that
> > don't tend to claim them as Mongols or some
> related
> > Altaic people. They also link them to the
> Xiung-Nu,
> > Ephthalites ("White Huns"), etc. Descriptions of
> > Attila seem to describe someone of E. Turkish,
> > Mongol
> > or East Asian ancestry.
> > But as Piotr points out, they seem to have been
> like
> > an avalanche that picked anything and everything
> and
> > incorporated it into their group.
> > So it would not surprise me if they had Turkic,
> > Mongolic,
> > Iranian and Germanic elements plus any others they
> > came in contact with
>
> ****GK: I don't think it's all that useful to view
> the
> Huns as more of a "goulash" than other groups. I
> don't
> see them as "picking up anything and everything"
> except in the sense of political domination. The
> Alans, for instance, were close associates for a
> long
> time, as were various Germanic tribal groups. They
> may
> all have been "political Huns" if you will, but they
> were not "Huns" proper. There was such a thing as
> the
> "Hunnish" language (Priscus), and Maenchen-Helfen's
> analyses suggests it was PDC to some sort of Turkic
> (or Altaic). Some "Huns" had Greek, Roman, Iranian
> names, but that is not particularly
> relevant(Jordanes
> points out the "barbarian" proclivity to borrow
> names
> from other ethna). There is no 100% certainty as to
> who the Huns were. But they were certainly not a
> "goulash". There was a defining core which was just
> as
> "Hunnish" as the Goths were "Gothic". It seems to
> have
> existed well into the 6th century, and then
> disarticulated and dissolved, assimilated by a
> variety
> of other ethna.****
>
>
>
>
>

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