From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 52111
Date: 2008-01-30
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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [tied] IS PIE * DERU EXCLUSIVELY INDO-EUROPEAN ?
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> What do you mean ?
> PIE Indian have developed retroflex out of emphatic ??
>
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> The modern Arabic pronunciation is certainly not
> glottalized.
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> True
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> There is no reason to assume that the Ethiopian articulation is original.
> Patrick
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> Most experts in this field believe so.
> And I agree with these experts.
>
> The main obvious reason is :
> Glottalized can become emphatic, not the reverse.
> And glottalized can be become voiced,
> the reverse is rarer but possible.
>
> Arnaud
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That is a straw man.
Start with retroflex articulation. Retroflex can be glottalized and and
later voiced --- or not.
Patrick
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