Re: Li

Piotr,

thank you for the correction of the final element; that makes it likely a
simple collective.

Of course, I cannot agree with your reconstruction of the root.

We can discuss it if you wish.

I see no reason for *H3.

To my way of thinking, removing th stress-accent from *g^hél- gives *g^hol-'



Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Li


> On 2008-01-30 20:39, fournet.arnaud wrote:
>
> > We have already reached the conclusion that PIE was long gone
> > when gold became something interesting.
>
> I wouldn't be so sure of that. The oldest gold jewellery found so far
> (5th millennium BC) is from the Black Sea coast:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_Necropolis
>
> and they had copper as well.
>
> > And that the reason why
> > western PIE has a loanword *zahb > *ahw-s
> > central PIE invented a word out of *ghel.
> > Arnaud
> > =============
> >
> > Instead, they used *Hawes-, 'dawn(-colored thing)' and *g^hel-dh-,
> > 'shiny-nugget'.
>
> The latter actually reflects *g^Hl.h3'-to- (Germanic) and *g^He/olh3-to-
> (Balto-Slavic). Eng. gold derives from PGmc. *Gulþa, and the change of
> *-lþ- > OE -ld- (not to be confused with Verner's Law) is regular.
>
> Piotr
>
>