Re: India first (Was: Etruscans)

--- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "kishore patnaik"
> <kishorepatnaik09@...> wrote:
> >
> > GK: This is really the point. Cybalist is not
> a
> > forum for the discussion of substantive religious
> > issues as such, and certainly not in religious
> terms.
> > "India first" is religion not science.
>
> What would you call "Ukraine first"? Religion or
> science?

****GK: The point is that viewing the territory of
eastern Ukraine as a component of the PIE homeland has
a great deal of scientific data to support it, whereas
there is absolutely nothing even remotely comparable
for India. Kishore Patnaik's comments are simply
dogmatic, at times (his "Maya" fantasies) verging on
the totally ridiculous. If you believe something so
strongly that scientific evidence does not matter,
then you are in religion or ideology.****

>
>
>(GK)there is a huge
> > amount of proper discussion about the scientific
> > issues involved as to the origin of PIE in the
> > cybalist archives, and the insuperable defects of
> > Indo-centrism in this regard. Kishore Patnaik
> would be
> > well advised to spend some time foraging there
> instead
> > of wasting our time with his dogmas.
>
>
> I have been posting on thist list for over five
> years and very
> thoroughly involved in the "huge amount of proper
> discussion about the
> scientific issues involved as to the origin of PIE "
> GK is referring to.

****GK: No you're not. Your usual technique is to post
some ridiculous item about India as the PIE homeland,
failing to respond to that portion of the ensuing
criticism which devastates it, and after a while,
coming forth with yet another item, etc, etc, etc. The
main difference between you and Kishore Patnaik is
that you are more articulate in English.****

>
> There is no consensus about the origin of PIE and
> every other
> "homlenad" scenerio has equally "insuperable"
> difficulties as an
> Indian homeland scenerio may have.

****GK:Clearly not.The Indian scenario is
archaeologically impossible. There is nothing
insuperable about many of the other scenarios, though
some have more difficulties than others. Discussing
Pontic, Anatolian, Danubian possibilities for instance
is discussing theories which have a great measure of
initial plausibility. India is completely off the map
in such discussions.****




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