Re: India first (Was: Etruscans)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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> From: mkelkar2003
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> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:33 AM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] [tied] Re: India first (Was:

Etruscans)

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> There is no consensus about the origin of PIE and every other
> "homlenad" scenerio has equally "insuperable" difficulties as an
> Indian homeland scenerio may have.
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> No,
> An Indian homeland is absurd, and it is so absurd it is hard to refute
> as all absurdities lacking the thinnest connection with reality.
> Ukraine and Anatolia are the best candidates,
> and they do not bump into "insuperable" difficulties.
> And in fine they are compatible.
> It's more a matter of "when" and "how" it did happen.
> Arnaud
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> There are very reputable
> scholars like Trubestkoy who think reconstructing PIE is
> unnecessary.
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> Trubetzkoy -tzk- had something political to sell :
> that people with different languages can make a "sprach-bund" and

develop a common language :

> that is to say : all people in the Russian Empire should learn

Russian and make a "sprach-bund" as soon as possible.

> Some sides in Trubetzkoy stink.
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> But phonology is good.
> Arnaud
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> K. Patnaik may want to read the following article:
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> <http://www.omilosmeleton.gr/english/documents/IIR.pdf>
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> M. Kelkar
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> Could you be kind enough to sum up what you mean in this article

in 100 words ?


Here you go:

"Then Hock, unaware of J. Nichols's evidence which requires a locus of
dispersal at Bactria Sogdiana (unlike his own vague vast area from
"East Central Europe to Eastern Russia," p. 17), nonetheless indicated
that there are no substantial linguistic arguments against the
proposition that IE branches moved out of India. He states that apart
from the Gypsy emigration, there are "three more IA languages moving
out of India: Gandhari Prakrit (in medieval Khotam and farther East),
and Parya in modern Uzebkistan).. and Dunaki close to present day
Shina) to the outer northwestern edge of South Asia," (also in Hock
1996, p.82). He states also that PIE could be "a priori" have been
originally spoken in India (p. 11) and rejects the idea not on
linguistic but archaeological(!)grounds p. 13) of the kind usually
implied by invasionist (horse and chariot). This as we saw (Sect VII)
is no real difficulty (Kazanas 2002, p. 28)."

M. Kelkar

> Arnaud
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