Re: Maya

According to Wikipedia "Mayapan" --the city is named
for the Mayans. BUT no one really knows for sure. The
city of Mayapan was the dominant city of the Yucatec
Mayans until the mid 1400s and was ruled by the
Cocom/Kokom --who saw themselves as a purifying
element against other supposedly more Nahuatlized
groups such as the Xiu and the Itza. The Cocom were
destroyed with the fall of Mayapan but it's possible
they imposed their name on their polity.
May- I believe, for what it's worth, means "time". Old
school mayanists such as J. Eric Thompson played this
up and saw them as "time lords" who sat around
peacefully chatting about the cosmos. Then Mayan
script was translated and they turned out to be a
pretty gruesome lot.
Given that the Mayan priesthood was centered in
prophecy and calendrics, time was of great importance
to that segment and it's posible that it was a
profession name that spread to the whole elite and
then to the ethnicity --but that's only a guess

--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kishore patnaik
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 9:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Maya
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> The scholars have no unified answer to the origins
> of Mayans. Nor no one knows conclusively why they
> are called Mayans and who called them so first. My
> guess that they are called so after Maya is as good
> and as scientific or imaginative as yours (that they
> are called after some city which itself belonged to
> the decaying times of Mayan).
>
> If Mayans did not call them so, can you please
> give me the original name/s of the civilization and
> the concerned references?
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> The sanskrit influences on Mayans are beyond doubt
> and that influence is highly limited on them means
> they followed their own languages and their own
> traditions- just as Daityas, while staying in Indian
> Subcontinent,did.
>
>
> Give me better reasons and counter evidence to
> condemn my "dogmas"
>
> Kishore patnaik
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> Mayans' name is irrelevant :
> You have two other languages named maya in
> Cameroun and Australia.
> ===
> People have doubted for years that any connection
> between the American continent and Pacific Oceana
> could have existed.
> It has only been recently accepted that Chickens
> reached South America before Spaniards set foot
> there.
>
> Your claim "beyond doubt" is absurdly incompetent.
> Unless "beyond doubt" means "no doubt it's wrong".
>
> I would not name your "ideas" "dogma" : it's
> nonsense.
> And to be frank,
> As far as this forum is concerned,
> it is not worth discussing : it is spam.
>
> Arnaud
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