Re: Bird (was: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian)

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 51508
Date: 2008-01-19

 
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From: stlatos
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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:51 PM
Subject: [Courrier indésirable] [tied] Bird (was: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian)

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@... > wrote:
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> At 3:19:16 AM on Saturday, September 22, 2007,
> fournet.arnaud wrote:
>
> > What is your own explanation ?
>
> For OE <brid(d)>? I have none: I've never seen a concrete
> explanation that was at all convincing. And I consider an
> admission that we don't know far preferable to a highly
> implausible explanation.

Here's my explanation (simplified to be more like standard, thus
leaving some parts out). See some of my previous descriptions for more.

*ptero+ 'wing'
*pteryo+ 'at/on/in wing'

*petno+ 'feather'
*petnyo+ 'at/on/in feather'

like:

*kY(e)rd 'heart'
*kY(e)rdi 'at/on/in heart'

*ekYspteryó/ekYspetn yó+ 'out from under wing'
*ekYspteryó/ekYspetn yó+s 'fledgling'

From PIE to:

*ekYspetnyó+ > *essidnyo+ > *essi:ne/isse: ne > MIr essíne, Gaelic
isean 'young bird, chicken'

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The idea is very creative.
From H1_ks-p_tn-yó should it not be *assanni- in proto-Celtic ?
Unstressed > hence  schwa > *a
ARnaud
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*ekYspteryó+
*ekYpteryó+
*ekYpretyó+
*epretyó+
*ephrethyó+
*ebhredhyó+
*ebredyó+
*ebredyá+
*ibridyá+
*bridyá+

OE bridd / bird 'young bird, chicken'
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Germanic is not a variety of PIE where consonants are unstable.
I don't believe in most steps of this sequence.
Arnaud
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