From: stlatos
Message: 51234
Date: 2008-01-13
>The loan was from Baltic to Proto-Uralic or some similar stage. The
> I definitely disagree.
> The word Mord- (in Mordvin)
> and ud-murt possibly from *anta-mart-
> are obvious and known loanwords from Iranian.
> Another word in Mordvin is mirde "husband"
>
> A loanword like mantya should be **mez- not magy-ar
> Hungarian gy usually stems from dzh as in job=dzhob
> as shown by numerous Turcic loanwords.
> You need to start with something like *mandza or *mandzha
> there is no reason to suppose this is a loanword from Baltic
> It definitely looks like an inherited word.
> And How could such a loanword end up in Ugric ?
>
> Arnaud