Re: Anser (was: swallow vs. nightingale)

If we go back to the beginning of the discussion,
and the root *p_l,

PIE Data :
pel-H1
pol-w
pl-no
From that, it is easy to infer : *p_l
as tradition does.

From Arabic
?afil
Hafil
From that, *p_l.
The same

This root is also documented in :
Niger touareg as balal
and Egyptian Hipulil

There is no reason to further reanalyze *p_l
in a smaller segment
be it *p or *l
because in that case
we should expect *l_p to mean "full"
in Arabic, PIE or any other PAA language
And it is undocumented hence false.

The root is *p_l "full, abundant".

A.F

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From: Patrick Ryan
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Fournet:

If Kazimirski did not see fit to use actual, documented material to substantiate his proposed (imagined?) meanings (and, if he did/could not reference them as appears to be the case), your assertion of their meaning(s) is unconvincing unless you can find and documentarily reference from some other source (Wehr, perhaps) the meaning(s) [full] that you propose for them by generously giving Kazimirski the benefit of the doubt.

Patrick Ryan