Re: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM][tied] comohota

Based on the information we have, I agree with Peter
BUT if it were a real phoneme, I'd look at /f/ --which
sometimes alternates with /h/ in and among Italic
languages, e.g. harina vs. fasena. I don't know if
leads to anything or if it muddies the waters more


--- P&G <G.and.P@...> wrote:

> Why should we consider it a real phoneme? Any more
> than the written h in English "she" or "chair"? Or
> the b in "debt"? Why can't it just be a spelling
> marker either of length or of hiatus?
>
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:48 PM
> Subject: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM][tied] comohota
>
>
>
> If this -h- were to be considered as a "real"
> phoneme,
> what would it be ? *gh, *g, *gw ?
>
> Arnaud
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: P&G
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [SPAM][tied] comohota
>
>
> >I have a question about
> >Umbrian comohota = Latin offerta
> >This word is supposed to be from root *meu
> >Latin mov-ere and Lituanian mauti.
> >What does this -h- in como-h-ota stand for ?
>
> The process in Umbrian should be:
> *move-to > *mov-to > *mouto > mo:to
> with regular syncope, then regular change of
> -ou- to -o:-.
>
> Umbrian spelling is, as one writer puts it, "as
> diverse as possible.
> Various spellings of the same sound are used,
> sometimes wholly
> promiscuously." The sound /h/ was very weak, if
> not absent, in Umbrian, and
> is commonly used as a sign of hiatus. This is in
> line with Rick
> McCallister's suggestion. The trouble is, this
> word should have no hiatus,
> merely a single long vowel.
>
> Perhaps we can guess it is merely an aberrant
> spelling.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>

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