Re: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

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From: Rick McCallister

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Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:48 PM

Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

Actually not --read Trask regarding the Basque word.
He derives it from crocus --the analogy in that it's
yellow like baby shit

--- afyangh <fournet.arnaud@ wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> In the FRench Edition by Ruhlen "'L'origine des
> langues",
> He claims that Burushaski, "Caucasic" and Basque are
> related
> because they share the word :
>
> Basque horotz
> "Caucasic" kurtch
> Burushaski ghurash
>
> All meaning : "excrement".
>
> Obviously these words are loanwords from PIE s-ker-t
> "s..t"
>
> so it is no wonder they have failed to prove these
> languages are
> cognate on the basis that they share the same
> loanwords from PIE.
> This is a cause hard to plead.
>
> I suppose there is some "Freudian" lapse in the fact
> that Ruhlen
> chose this word as a proof.
> It seems more appropriate as a comment on his work.
>
>
> --- In cybalist@... s.com, "mkelkar2003"
> <swatimkelkar@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
>
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dene-Caucasian_ languages
> >
> > Burushaski has been all over the place in terms of
> familial
> > classication. Supporters of the Aryan Invasion
> Theory want it to
> be a
> > Dravidian language.
> >
> > "Attempts have been made to establish a genealogic
> relationship
> > between Burushaski and Sumerian,[citation needed]
> and the
> Caucasian,
> > Dravidian,[citation needed] and Indo-European[ 1]
> language
> families;
> > Burushaski is also part of the Dené-Caucasian
> hypothesis, along
> with
> > Yeniseian, Caucasian, and Sino-Tibetan. However,
> none of these
> > efforts have met with general acceptance."
> >
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Burushaski_ language
> > M. Kelkar
> >
> > --- In cybalist@... s.com, Rick McCallister
> <gabaroo6958@ >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It's something I read years ago. It may have
> been
> > > Bomhard, but I've seen it mentioned several
> times in
> > > postings on the old Nostratic list. I think
> someone
> > > also cited Joanna Nichols and the gist was that
> both
> > > IE and Kartvelian were once east of the Caspian
> and
> > > that there was an intervening language between
> them
> > > that accounted for wanderworts that didn't quite
> match
> > > up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Daniel J. Milton" <dmilt1896@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In cybalist@... s.com, Rick
> McCallister
> > > > <gabaroo6958@ > wrote:
> > > > > Regarding Georgian --from what I've read,
> > > > Kartvelian
> > > > > arrived in the Southern Caucasus c. 2000 BC
> from
> > > > > somewhere to the east.
> > > >
> > > > Rick, can you recall what you read and
> where?
> > > > Aside from being part
> > > > of a putative Dene-Caucasian grouping, I
> wasn't
> > > > aware of evidence of
> > > > Kartvelian arriving from anywhere at any
> specific
> > > > time.
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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