From: Rick McCallister
Message: 50232
Date: 2007-10-09
> Sorry,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dene-Caucasian_languages
> but this seems utterly farfetched.
> All the more so as Crocus was used to provide
> Safran, aromates and colors.
> I don't think this applies to the other word...
>
> I will keep the explanation of horotz from s-kert-
> both words having the same meaning.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick McCallister
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Renfrew's theory renamed
> as Vasco-Caucasian
>
>
> Actually not --read Trask regarding the Basque
> word.
> He derives it from crocus --the analogy in that
> it's
> yellow like baby shit
>
> --- afyangh <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
>
> > In the FRench Edition by Ruhlen "'L'origine des
> > langues",
> > He claims that Burushaski, "Caucasic" and Basque
> are
> > related
> > because they share the word :
> >
> > Basque horotz
> > "Caucasic" kurtch
> > Burushaski ghurash
> >
> > All meaning : "excrement".
> >
> > Obviously these words are loanwords from PIE
> s-ker-t
> > "s..t"
> >
> > so it is no wonder they have failed to prove
> these
> > languages are
> > cognate on the basis that they share the same
> > loanwords from PIE.
> > This is a cause hard to plead.
> >
> > I suppose there is some "Freudian" lapse in the
> fact
> > that Ruhlen
> > chose this word as a proof.
> > It seems more appropriate as a comment on his
> work.
> >
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "mkelkar2003"
> > <swatimkelkar@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> > >__________________________________________________________
> > > Burushaski has been all over the place in
> terms of
> > familial
> > > classication. Supporters of the Aryan Invasion
> > Theory want it to
> > be a
> > > Dravidian language.
> > >
> > > "Attempts have been made to establish a
> genealogic
> > relationship
> > > between Burushaski and Sumerian,[citation
> needed]
> > and the
> > Caucasian,
> > > Dravidian,[citation needed] and
> Indo-European[1]
> > language
> > families;
> > > Burushaski is also part of the Dené-Caucasian
> > hypothesis, along
> > with
> > > Yeniseian, Caucasian, and Sino-Tibetan.
> However,
> > none of these
> > > efforts have met with general acceptance."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burushaski_language
> > > M. Kelkar
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick
> McCallister
> > <gabaroo6958@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's something I read years ago. It may have
> > been
> > > > Bomhard, but I've seen it mentioned several
> > times in
> > > > postings on the old Nostratic list. I think
> > someone
> > > > also cited Joanna Nichols and the gist was
> that
> > both
> > > > IE and Kartvelian were once east of the
> Caspian
> > and
> > > > that there was an intervening language
> between
> > them
> > > > that accounted for wanderworts that didn't
> quite
> > match
> > > > up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- "Daniel J. Milton" <dmilt1896@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick
> > McCallister
> > > > > <gabaroo6958@> wrote:
> > > > > > Regarding Georgian --from what I've
> read,
> > > > > Kartvelian
> > > > > > arrived in the Southern Caucasus c. 2000
> BC
> > from
> > > > > > somewhere to the east.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick, can you recall what you read and
> > where?
> > > > > Aside from being part
> > > > > of a putative Dene-Caucasian grouping, I
> > wasn't
> > > > > aware of evidence of
> > > > > Kartvelian arriving from anywhere at any
> > specific
> > > > > time.
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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