corn, horn (was: [tied] Re: DBG)

From: stlatos
Message: 49818
Date: 2007-09-04

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "indravayu" <sonno3@...> wrote:
>
> >> I don't really understand what you mean by "non-indo-european
> >> profile" - both Aedui and Carnuti are perfectly good Celtic names
> >> with solid Proto-Indo-Euroepan etymologies.
> >
> > I am ready to read about these solid PIE etymologies.

> Carnuti seems to be ultimately derived
> from PIE *kerh2- "horn" (via a suffixed form *k'rno-

I'd say *kYr.Ngo+ / *kYerNgo+ to explain Skt s'r.Nga- and B-Sl
*ragos (with fric. > 0 before long C-cluster like *splY(n)gYhn+ >
bluz^nis).

Some have a mix with *kYr.vo+s kYru+ so Celt. *kYr.Ngu+ / *kYerNgu+
> *kYarNu+ / *kYerNu+. As Latin cornu:tus 'horned' so *kYarNu:to+ /
*kYerNu:to+ (and +no+s to form names of gods >> *kYarNu:tno+ /
*kYerNu:tno+ > various; such as *gWhr.no+ > Skt ghr.na- 'heat';
*gWarno+ >> +no+s > *gWarnnos > Grannos).

Of course, I think the +no+s is analogical (abstracted from
*pYerkWuunos and maybe a few others), but derivatives in PIE fashion
could continue after PIE times, such as *kYr.Ngo+ >> +tlo+ >
*kYr.Ngtlo+ > *kYr.Nksla+ > Skt s'r.Nkhala- 'chain'.

; compare Irish
> corn, Welsh carn "hoof; drinking-horn", Gaulish carnon "trumpet
> [instrument]").

But also from e; cern, Cernunnos.