Re: RE : [tied] Re: North of the Somme

From: george knysh
Message: 49654
Date: 2007-08-26

--- patrick cuadrado <dicoceltique@...> wrote:

> you said
> Thérouanne : Tarvo-(w)onna : the river of the
> Bull
> > Was the capital of the Morini.
>
> keep care
> Thérouanne is from Taro- = to cross...the river
> (onna)
>
> see Taru-essedum in Cisalpine = the town crossed
> by chariot
>
>
> tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> a écrit :

****GK: (So as to avoid lapsing into irrelevancies):
the areas in Kuhn's maps practically "Celt-free" as to
hydro- and toponyms are PRECISELY those which in 57BC
were inhabited by non-Celtic Belgic tribal units,
according to Caesar: Morini, Menapii, Nervii (the key
group when we compare DBG 1:1 and 2:4), Aduatuci,
Eburones, Condrusi, Caeresi, Paemani. That's about
half the population of the Belgic Alliance... Let's
quote Caesar again, this time in English, since the
Latin original does not seem to have impressed our
Gallic chauvinists (:=)): "a great many [this is my
translation of Caesar's "plerosque" which the Perseus
project site I quote renders as "the greater part" GK]
of the Belgae were sprung, from the Germans, and that
having crossed the Rhine at an early period, they had
settled there, on account of the fertility of the
country, and had driven out the Gauls who inhabited
those regions"...
Now even if the entire territory North of the Somme
were saturated with Celtic place-names (which it
obviously is not) this would in no sense derogate from
the validity of Caesar's witness, since place names
could remain even if the bulk of a prior population
was displaced or assimilated. An elementary historical
fact, with countless examples. Clear enough?****






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