Re: park, was *pVs- for cat

From: Richard Wordingham
Message: 49447
Date: 2007-07-31

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@> wrote:

> > park is an intersting word
> > 1. It can't be Q-Celtic
> > 2. It couldn't have been borowed by Goidelic until
> > after 500-600 AD because early Old Irish
> > systematically replaced /p/ with /kw/ then /k/

> In loans from p-Celtic, you mean?
> Everything is temporary, so there must have been a time before that
> period where Old Irish didn't do that. If it replaced /p/ > /kW/ only
> in loans from p-Celtic as it loaned them, earlier loans in p- would
> have survived. If it replaced all /p/'s with /kW/'s, all words in p-
> must be loaned later than 500-600AD and will be NWBlock words in
English.

Didn't one of the early Irish saints advise that <p> could be
pronounced as a combination of /b/ and /h/? (I can't remember the
details.) This strongly suggests that early Old Irish lacked /p/ in
normal speech.

Richard.