--- Octavià Alexandre <
oalexandre@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> <gabaroo6958@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Can you elaborate on why not?
> >
> Generally speaking, a word attested only on a few IE
> branches and with a
> limited geographical spread is a candidate for being
> a substrate word.
****GK: There are two rivers named "Ibr" in Ukraine
(one just west of Kyiv, another near the r.Seret), one
(Ibr') in Bulgaria, an "Ibar" r. in Serbia. The
Bulgarian river was known in 6th c. Greek as "'ebros"
(later transcribed as "Hebrus" or "Ebrus" in Latin).
According to Rozwadowski, the contemporary Slavic
"Ibr" river names go back to a Thracian *Jebr(os),
according to Dechev rather to *Eibrus. The semantics
(says Georgiev) supposedly go back to a PIE *eibrho-s
(= "squirter") and originally designated "river
sources". Rozwadowski also mentions a little stream
called "Ibra" in Germany (near Fulda)*****
>
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