Re: [tied] *ud- 'out'

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
> > You still need to think :
> >
> > 1. because for dental+dental the output of Alb. is s from an
> older
> > affricative probable c^
> > And the timeframe of dental+dental transformation is a pre-
> > historic one
> >
> > 2. This Dental+Dental transformation has nothing to do: with

the

> > two stop reduction in PAlb.: this second transformation (even
> is "a
> > Pre-Latin one") happened somewhere around -200BC :-: 100 AC : so
> it's
> > a historical (later) one.
> >
> > Marius
> *************
> And you could prove it from examples, probably, not from
> besa 'faith, trust', as Piotr have tried once (see previous

message).

> *bhidh-ti-a: > Alb besë and Alb bletë 'bee, honeybee, apis' and
> Greek melitta/melissa 'id.' are sufficient counterexamples. If you
> wish I could offer other examples. So, as I claim many times, it's
> good to stop speculations and to start from concrete examples.
>
> Lack of knowledge of other languages and their specifics can't be
> compensated by dry theorizations and speculations.
>
> Konushevci
>

Abdullah, not to remain on a 'dry space',

What are yours Dental+Dental examples for Albanian that would be in
contradiction with Alb. s, and what output they have (please put some
cognates nearby with their derivation from PIE)?

Marius