[tied] Re: Verb catagories: the -oh2/-om vs. -mi/-m conjugations -

Aaah. Now I get it - thanks!
Out of curiosity - would you be able to know how the 1st person
singular aorist might be done for the root *yeudh- (fight, move)?
Here are some of the attestations: Latin \iubeo:\ (order, command),
Lithuanian \judu`\ (move, stir), Greek \husmi:'ne:\ (battle),
Avestani \yu:i[delta]yeiti\ (fights), Sanskrit \yu'dhyati\ (fights),
Tocharian A \yutk-\ (be anxious).

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> On 2007-03-18 20:27, C. Darwin Goranson wrote:
> > One more thing: is there an infinitive form in PIE?
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "C. Darwin Goranson"
> > <cdog_squirrel@> wrote:
> >> To be more precise than the title: How can one tell from a PIE
root
> > if
> >> it's of the -oh2 or of the -mi conjugation?
> >>
> >> For example, I'm confused about the root *derk^- . Which one is
it, -
> > mi
> >> ending or -oh2 ending? How can one tell?
>
> You can't predict it from the structure of the _root_. The 1sg.
ending
> -mi endings is added to consonantal ("athematic") stems, while -o:
is
> added to vocalic ("thematic") stems (with stem-final *-o/e-). I'm
> deliberately transcribing the themetic ending as *-o:, since I'm
not
> convinced that it goes back to *-o-h2.
>
> Consonantal stems include root verbs like *h1és-mi 'I am' (3sg.
h1es-ti
> / 3pl. h1s-énti), nasal-infix presents like *li-né-kW-mi 'I'm
leaving
> behind' (*li-né-kW-ti / *li-n-kW-énti), reduplicated athematic
presents
> like *dHi-dHéh1-mi 'I'm putting' (*dHi-dHéh1-ti / *dHé-dH(h1)-n.ti
or
> the like). The root-present type has a subtype ("Narten presents")
with
> an underlying long vowel: *sté:u-mi 'I praise' (*ste:u-ti / *stéw-
n.ti).
> They are the only ones with fixed acent (on the root syllable). The
> accent of all the other types is mobile.
>
> Vocalic stems (all of them with fixed accent) include "simple"
thematic
> presents like *bHér-o: 'I carry' (*bHér-e-ti / *bHér-o-nti; the
type,
> although extremely common in most branches, may be post-PIE),
presents
> with accent on the thematic vowel like *gWr.h3-ó: 'I'm devouring'
> (*gWr.h3-é-ti / *gWr.h3-ó-nti) reduplicated thematic presents like
> *sí-sd-o: 'I'm sitting' (*sí-sd-e-ti / *sí-sd-o-nti), iteratives in
> -sk^e- like *pr.k^-sk^ó: 'I keep asking' (*pr.k^-sk^é-ti /
> *pr.k^-sk^ó-nti), -je- presents like *wr.g^-jó: 'I'm working'
> (*wr.g^-jé-ti / *wr.g^-jó-nti) (with a root-accented variant, see
below
> on *spék^-je/o-), plus a few derived types such as causatives and
> iteratives in *-éje/o- or denominative verbs in *-jé/ó-.
>
> *derk^- 'see, look' forms a simple thematic present in Greek
(however,
> the endings are those of the middle voice: dérkomai, not *derko:).
It
> may be a Greek innovation. In Indo-Iranian the present tense is
> suppletive (supplied by *(s)pék^-je/o- > Skt. pás'-ya-ti), but
*derk^-
> has both root and sigmatic aorist forms in Sanskrit (the former
also in
> Iranian). It seems to have been a root aorist originally (*dérk^-
t /
> *dr.k^-ént), perhaps without a proper present stem. The root also
forms
> derived presents like the causative *dork^-éje/o- 'show'.
>
> Piotr
>