Re: Res: [tied] Etymology of Rome - h1romh-eh2 again

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" <richard@>
> wrote:
> >
>
>
> > Here are some pronunciations given in a book I had as a child:
> >
> > Allosaurus: AL-lo-sawr-us
> > Ammonites: AM-mon-ites
> > amphibian: am-FIB-EE-AN
> > Ankylosaurus: an-KYLE-o-sawr-us
> > Archaeopteryx: ark-y-OP-ter-iks
> > Archelon: AR-kel-on
> > Birkenia: bir-KEEN-y-a
> > Brachiosaurus: BRAKE-ee-o-sawr-us
> > Brontosaurus: BRON-to-sawr-us
> >
> > At the very least it demonstrates that syllabification using the
> onset
> > principle is not a major principle in conveying the pronnication

of

> > English words. (Similarly, syllable boundaries play a minor

role

> in
> > English hyphenation rules.)
> >
> > Notice that the <a> in <amount>, <amaze> and <amount> is
> unstressed.
> >
> > So, for some VC.V examples with /m/, try:
> >
> > amateur /"æm.&.tS&/
> > hammer /"hæm.&/
> > emery /"em.&.ri/
> >
> > Now you might try arguing that the /m/ belongs to both

syllables,

> but
> > it is not a geminate in the way that <penknife> /pen.naif/ has a
> > double consonant.
> >
> > If you try to analyse <singer> /"siN.&/ as having a geminate,

you

> then
> > have to explain why English speakers have great difficulty
> with /N/ as
> > a word initial consonant. Certainly a syllabification /"si.N&/
> > predicts a lack of difficulty. Indeed, one former(?) native
> > English-speaking member of this list did syllabify the
> word /"si.N&/ -
> > and he had no difficulty with initial /N/ in foreign words.
> >
> > Richard.
> ************
> I think that syllabe structure is a language specific, for each
> language defines its own syllable structure.
> Lets see, for example, Alb kod.ër 'hill' (undefinite form), but
> ko.dra (definite), making the /o/ much more open and more

stressed.

> In closed syllable, where C=d, N=o is more dark and little
> stressed, till in open syllabe ko.dra, where C=d becomes part of

the

> onset cluster dr-, the /o/ gets different quality.
> Same result we found in vet.ull 'eyebrow' (undefinite form), but
> ve.tlla (defininte), where we have an open syllable with more open
> and stressed /o/.
> So, as a rule, we could deduce that iin Wd > RONC.NC (word), R
> (rhyme), O (onset), N (nucleus), C (coda), we have closed syllable
> with darker and less stressed vowel, but in Wd with syllable
> structure RON.ONC we have open syllable with open vowel and more
> strossed vowel. But, this rule seems regular only if C in last
> syllabe is liquid (r, ll) or nasal
> pjep.ën/pjepër 'melon'(undefinite), but pje.pni/pjepri etc.
>
> Konushevci

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Sorry, it should be ORNC.RNC and ORN.ORNC