Re: [tied] "Fish" in Slavic

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From: Abdullah Konushevci

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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:47 PM

Subject: Re: [tied] "Fish" in Slavic

 

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> > --- Abdullah Konushevci <akonushevci@... <akonushevci%
40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Seems that "ry-ba" is an abstractum in -ba, like:
> > > Zal-ba, goz-ba,
> > > svad-ba, veZ-ba, Zur-ba etc. If Slavic y < *u:,
> >
> > ****GK: "y" is (I think) an "i-type" pronunciation:
> > pbi-BA, pbi-Bbi in 15th c. texts. Does this go back to
> > an *u: ?*****
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> [AK]
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> About *u: > y see : byti 'to be', OCS dymu in Derksen's "Proto-
Slavic
> inherited lexicon", on-line version.
> the
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> > > most plausible
> > > explanation would be the root in *reu(H)- 'to smash,
> > > knock down, tear
> > > out etc.'. I exclude here the root *reu- 'to below'.
> > > Just a guessing.
> >
> > *****GK: Thank you. What kind of fish would behave in
> > this way? We're almost talking of behemoths or
> > leviathans. Proto-Slavs watching whales in the arctic,
> > and then migrating and applying the term to smaller
> > fishies in lakes and rivers? How about another
> > guess?*****
 

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Patrick:

 

Another, perhaps likelier possibility, is *ru:-, 'rake', relating the the scratchiness of the typical scaled fishskin. Here, we could look at Latin ru:bidus, 'rough'; and MIr robb, 'animal?'.

 

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