[tied] Re: Hamp on Alb.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:

>
> On 2006-07-07 14:49, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> > Language is generally insuffiently expressive compared to a

suitably

> > powerful symbolic language (and bla-bla). I meant that the

language

> > you intended would have been LBK in the outside world, not in

your

> > mind (and said language might have left traces in Balkan

languages,

> > whichever they were). I know you have reserved LBK as the PIE ur-
> > culture.
>
> Leaving bla-bla on the side, the source of the Albanian word can't

be

> too old; otherwise the cluster *-sk- would have become -h- /x/

rather

> than -shk-. LBK flourished ca. 5600-4500 BC -- that's way too

early to

> be of any relevance. The donor language was most likely the same

from

> which Greek took <baskios> and a couple of related terms. The root

is

> also well attested in Celtic (hence the Eng. loanword basket).
>
> Piotr
>

To come back to Romanian baskã <-> Alb bashkë this really indicates
a PAlb/Dacian form *baCska: => most probable the Dacian word was
*bakska: 'fleece ((of course) 'of wool')' => this is really an
inherited word with no issue regarding its derivation

Marius

P.S. Piotr, PIE sk > PAlb ks > PAlb h only in initial position and
in intervocalic ones, so PAlb bakska: > Rom. baskã is OK.