--- In
cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel J. Milton" <dmilt1896@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
>
> > 2. PIE *h2e > PIE *a > Dacian a
> > ===================================
> >
> > 2.a
> > Dacian *Apus (attested Apos) (-> see Pokorny too) < *h2ep-
'water'
> > Dacian *DZald-apa (attested Zaldapa) < *gHolh3-dH- + *h2ep-
> > eh2 'golden water(s)'
> > Romanian: apa 'water'
> > Cognates: in Sanskrit, Baltic, Tocharian etc...
> *******
> Isn't 'apa' the expected outcome in Rum. of the Latin 'aquam',
even
> if it accidentally mimics another I.-E. root?
> Dan
>
As you know we can have 'in the same time in the same context' only
one phonetic rule => please take a look on the twpo supposed below
rules (one of them for sure is not true)
1. Latin kw/a,o > Rom ca,co /ka,ko/
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I quote here 'the official' etymologies (DEX -> see dexonline.ro)
Rom. ca < Latin quam
Rom. cam < Latin quam magis
Rom. care < Latin qualis
Rom. cã < Latin quod
Rom. când < Latin quando
Rom. cât < Latin quantus
Rom încã < Latin unquam
Rom. niscai < Latin nescio qualis
Rom. cã < Latin quod
Romanian codru < Latin * quodrum (-> quadrum) (I really doubt)
Romanian cum < Latin quomo[do]
maybe Romanian scamã < Latin squama
On the other hand :
1. Latin kw/a,o > Rom pa,po
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is based on:
1. Rom. apã < Latin aqua
But the PIE root *h2ep- exists. (see the previous e-mail with the
Dacian toponyms)
2. Rom. patru < Latin quator
Note: The PIE root has kw- too so the origin of p here can be of
older origin (loan or not)
3. Rom. iapã < Latin equa
But the Albanian words is pelë < *epo:(u)la
Note: and final -la < a in Romanian see Latin stella < Rom. stea
4. potârniche > Lat. *perturnicula (< per[dix] + *[co]turnicula) or
*quo-turnicula
Note: Very ambigous etymology to can be taken into account for a
rule
5. pãresimi < Lat. quadragesima
Note: In contradiction with Rom. codru if from Lat. quadrum
There are no others supposed Lat qua,quo > Rom. po,pa examples
Now you can appreciate better yourself the situation...of Romanian
apa
Marius