Re: Albanian nose

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 44062
Date: 2006-03-31

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> <akonushevci@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
<alexandru_mg3@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> > > <akonushevci@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
> > <alexandru_mg3@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> > > > > <akonushevci@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
> > > > <alexandru_mg3@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
>
> > > So finally: could you derived here hundë rule-by-rule from
PIE
> > *neu-
> > > ks? To can talk about issues....or not ?
>
> > > > > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> > > > > > > <akonushevci@> wrote:
> > [AK]
> > So, if we assume doublet by inversion, *ksun-ta:, then we have
*ks
> >
> > Alb. /h/ (cf. Greek kse:nos and ALb. <i huej/huaj>) and -nt-
> cluster
> > that prevent the rhotacism.
>
>
> By inversion? *neu-ks > *ksunta:? Could you be more detailed on
> this 'inversion'? How many sounds we need 'to invert' here? Please
> help :)
>
>
> > I was not so wise to see that I have to deal with genius:), but
> > little invalid in mind and in language.
> >
>
>
> Yes, it's also strange for me too that 'you have eyes but you
cannot
> see' : please try to look Only on the derivation:
>
> PIE nil-grade *nh2s-ú-nt-o/eh2 > PAlb/Dacian? *asúnta: > Alb.
hundë
>
> It's 'quite a good one' :) despite 'your frustrations' :)
>
> I mean is 'obviously much much better' :) then :
> 1. hundë from hu
> 2. hundë from the 'inverted' *neu-ks
> etc...
> So finally, if its looks better than different 'other trials' made
> by Meyer, Baric^, Huld, Orel, Tagliavini, C^abej etc... :), you
will
> reject it Only because you don't have 'my name' in your 'dedicated
> list' :).
>
> Please forget 'your list' and look to the derivation....:)
>
> PIE nil-grade *nh2s-ú-nt-o/eh2 > PAlb/Dacian? *asúnta: > Alb.
hundë
>
> A derivation is good or wrong in its-self; you 'don't need to know
> who proposed it' ...This thing seems 'to make you blind': and
> finally it determines you to arrive to accept
> different 'inversions' ...

[AK]
Simply I haven't eyes to see your nil-grade or zero-grade of
*neuks 'to sniff, smell' or *nas 'nose'. If you think in first form,
zero-grade will be *nuks-, if you think in second one, zero-grade
would look *n.s that will yields in Albanian ans- and if you recall
in mind Alb <âshtë> derived from *en-esti > ânshtë, attested
in "Meshari", standard Albanian <është/âshtë> you will see that *ans
will end in *âsh- or in Tosk *ësh- (cf. also <an-mik> 'enemy',
antonym of <mik>, where it is obvious that syllabic *n. yields *an-,
if followed by /m/ and /t/ and /a/, if follwed by /f/. See also
*nebh- and zero-grade form *n.bhu-lo > ALb <avull>, Romanian <abur>,
etc.


> Cheers,
> Marius :)
>
>
> P>S> Anyway, thanks, for the appreciation: "> little invalid in
> mind and in language" :) I suppose that is nothing personal,
> here , :) just a simple appreciation :)
>
> I ask myself: what could disturb you, so much, that you cannot
> refrain you, sometimes? Because finally I only wrote:
>
> PIE nil-grade *nh2s-ú-nt-o/eh2 > PAlb/Dacian? *asúnta: > Alb. hundë

Look, Marius, I am tired from yours abracadabra derivations and from
your arrogance, so I would wish to be this one my last reply in any
of yours posting. Nothing personal, believe me. Just I am too much
irritated, nothing else. So, please, do address to other and leave
me alone, for I can't digest yours "derivations".

Konushevci