Re: Albanian nose

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> > <akonushevci@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
> <alexandru_mg3@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> > > > <akonushevci@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > *neu-ks- `to smell'. 1. Alb. <hundë> `nose'
> > > > > Konushevci
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I prefer an etymology asserting that: <<'an Albanian nose'
> is 'a
> > > PIE
> > > > nose'>>
> > >
> > > [AK]
> > > And exactly this is one.
> >
> > [Marius] please to detail here the phonetic rules that you

have

> > applied for you derivation....you will see the issues.
> >
>
> [AK]
> I didn't read, for I didn't have Huld's "Basic Albanian

Etymologies"

> (if someone has it, please help us), but, according to Orel's
> dictionary, I was not the only one that try ro derive Alb. <hundë>
> from PIE *neu-ks. I am not aware did he mentions dublets by
> inversion, like this one, but this is common phenomenon in IE
> languages: Greek Python and Typhon, mythical monsters, are both
> derived from *dheubh-.

So finally: could you derived here hundë rule-by-rule from PIE *neu-
ks? To can talk about issues....or not ?

> > > > PIE *hneh2s- 'nose' > PIE *hn.h2s-ú-nt-o/eh2 > PAlb/Dacian?
> > > *asúnta:
> > > > > (see gjuhë, vjehërr, kohë (despite the doubts)) >
> PAlb/Dacian?
> > > > *ahúnta: > Alb. húndë
> > >
> > > [AK]
> > > All these etymologies, for me, are not plausible.
> >
> > [Marius] Not plausible? based on what?
> > 1. Sematism? Identical.
> > 2. Phonetic Rules? Ok.
> >
> > Either you have arguments or ...
>
> [AK]
> You start again to ride the dead horse, for, as far as I remember,
> as Piotr as I have given to you much convinced arguments about

Alb.

> <gjuhë>, <vjehër> etc.
> >

A PIE nil-grade *nh2s-únt-o/eh2 > PAlb/Dacian? *asunta: > Alb. hundë

is Strong Enough, Abdullah to stand-up by itself ...maybe you still
not realize this yet...but this is the situation :)


(If I remeber well: that 'convinced arguments' didn't supply any
etymology for gjuhë & kohë (I will not count 'your invalid ones'
here))


Marius