--- In
cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:
>
> alexandru_mg3 wrote:
>
> > Not all of them, some intervocalic d passed to dh and remained
> > there...
> > My understanding is that we need at least three syllables to
can have
> > this reduction....
>
> No. The surviving -dh- in such cases is either an old affricate
(i.e. *3
> from *g^ or *g^H), which was not deleted, or a *d analogically
restored
> before a suffix. There are many disyllabic forms with the loss of
> intervocalic *d, cf. Lat. vadu- --> Alb. va 'ford'.
>
> Piotr
>
Hello Piotr,
Please find below some words reflecting Albanian d>dh in
intervocalic positions:
The Rule is: V-d-V > V-dh-V (between sec. V - sec. VIII CE)
(Thanks Miguel, I hope that you will come back in this type of
discussions ('what it was it was') we need your help too))
Inherited words:
a) Alb. hedh 'to throw' > [sk>h; eu>e] > PAlb *skeud- maybe *skeud-
a > PIE *skeud- maybe skeud-o 'to throw' (root skeud-2 at Pokorny)
Latin loans:
a) prodhoj 'to produce' > Lat. pro:da:re 'id.'
b) modh 'bushel' > Latin modus 'measure'
Regarding Alb va 'ford' (possible from Latin vadum (see Rom. vad))
it could well be directly from PIE *wh2dh- / *wah2dh- (see Pokorny -
page 1109)
In fact 'will be' for sure and inherited word if no di-syllabic
Albanian word shows the lost of d in intervocalic positions : in
this case the PAlb form of Alb va 'ford' was tri-syllabic like PAlb
*wa-da-wa to can explain the lost of d.
So Piotr, we need another example of di-syllabic word that lost
the intervocalic d (or g or h)...
Best Regards,
Marius
P.S. The lost of intervocalic b
b/intervocalic > zero in PRomanian and in PAlbanian
is a transformation that took place earlier because is reflected in
PRomanian too (see Rom. cal <-> Alb. kalë < Lat. caballus) (This is
not the case with the other transformations)