Re: [tied] Re: Sumerian White Dogs: Ku Assa x Kuvasz

I've been searching some dogsbreeds sites, and I found an interesting one about "moloss" breeds. In this site there's a good article undoing the myth the mastiff-like dogs are descendants of Tibetan Mastiff, and that English Mastiff was descendant of Roman types.

According to this article the so-called Assyrian Mastiff was an offspring of older races, the Central Asian shepherddogs, akin to Russian Owcharka. An offshoot of this stock was the big white dogs (Pyrenean, Kuvasz, etc), the hairy shepherd dogs (Bobtail, Briard, Bergamasco, etc), and another mastifflike dogbreeds, like Saint-Bernard, Leonberger, etc.

Komondor represents a mix of the White dogs and the hairy dogs.

I think it would be very ellusive to compare Human History, Linguistics and Domestic animals's History.

Joao SL

tolgs001 <st-george@...> escreveu:

>Is this theory plausible or just phantasy? >It is an attempt to link Hungarian Kuvasz's name, a big >white shepherd dog, to Sumerian roots. (...) > >an ancient dog, the Ku Assa, which has been described as a huge >white or yellow white pastoral guard dog belonging to the people >the of the Sumerian culture. [SNIP] >in France, the Pyrenean Mountain Dog; in Italy, the >Maremmano-Abruzzese; in Turkey,the Akbash; in Poland, the >Owczarek Podhalanski; and in Hungary, the Kuvasz. These breeds >are very similar in type and tasks. They are indeed similar, as this is well illustrated by Google images (for every of the aforementioned breeds; to which I'd add a further Hungarian large white shepherd dog, <komondor>, and a third one, which is smaller, <puli kutya>; and variants of the Romanian shepherd dog, <ciobãnescul românesc>). As for Hung. <kuvasz> ['kuvOs] < Sumer. <ku assa,> I'd be cautious (skeptical). (There are numerous "historians" and "linguists" in Hungary & diaspora convinced that Sumerian = Hungarian; and who've produced "Sumerian-Magyar grammar books" and "dictionaries," and who pretend that virtually all Sumerian toponyms, anthroponyms etc. can today be understood by anyone who's in command of *modern* Hungarian. (:-)) George

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