Re: [tied] Re: Sumerian White Dogs: Ku Assa x Kuvasz

From: dharminder chuhan
Message: 39808
Date: 2005-08-27

does the hungarian for dog Kutta related to the the
word for dog in many north indian languages also
kutta. could this in turn be linked to the sumerian
for dog???

--- "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:

> I've been searching some dogsbreeds sites, and I
> found an interesting one about "moloss" breeds. In
> this site there's a good article undoing the myth
> the mastiff-like dogs are descendants of Tibetan
> Mastiff, and that English Mastiff was descendant of
> Roman types.
> According to this article the so-called Assyrian
> Mastiff was an offspring of older races, the Central
> Asian shepherddogs, akin to Russian Owcharka. An
> offshoot of this stock was the big white dogs
> (Pyrenean, Kuvasz, etc), the hairy shepherd dogs
> (Bobtail, Briard, Bergamasco, etc), and another
> mastifflike dogbreeds, like Saint-Bernard,
> Leonberger, etc.
> Komondor represents a mix of the White dogs and the
> hairy dogs.
> I think it would be very ellusive to compare Human
> History, Linguistics and Domestic animals's History.
>
> Joao SL
>
> tolgs001 <st-george@...> escreveu:
> >Is this theory plausible or just phantasy?
> >It is an attempt to link Hungarian Kuvasz's name, a
> big
> >white shepherd dog, to Sumerian roots. (...)
> >
> >an ancient dog, the Ku Assa, which has been
> described as a huge
> >white or yellow white pastoral guard dog belonging
> to the people
> >the of the Sumerian culture. [SNIP]
> >in France, the Pyrenean Mountain Dog; in Italy, the
> >Maremmano-Abruzzese; in Turkey,the Akbash; in
> Poland, the
> >Owczarek Podhalanski; and in Hungary, the Kuvasz.
> These breeds
> >are very similar in type and tasks.
>
> They are indeed similar, as this is well illustrated
> by Google
> images (for every of the aforementioned breeds; to
> which I'd
> add a further Hungarian large white shepherd dog,
> <komondor>,
> and a third one, which is smaller, <puli kutya>; and
> variants
> of the Romanian shepherd dog, <ciobãnescul
> românesc>).
>
> As for Hung. <kuvasz> ['kuvOs] < Sumer. <ku assa,>
> I'd be
> cautious (skeptical). (There are numerous
> "historians" and
> "linguists" in Hungary & diaspora convinced that
> Sumerian =
> Hungarian; and who've produced "Sumerian-Magyar
> grammar
> books" and "dictionaries," and who pretend that
> virtually
> all Sumerian toponyms, anthroponyms etc. can today
> be understood
> by anyone who's in command of *modern* Hungarian.
> (:-))
>
> George
>
>
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