Re: [tied] Re: Interesting names in Sweden

From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 38946
Date: 2005-06-28

At 1:46:41 AM on Tuesday, June 28, 2005, aquila_grande
wrote:

> About the name Sigri-kneippa. In Norwegian you have the
> world "kneipe", definite form "kneipa", used about a place
> where alchoholic beveridges are served, and where possibly
> also prostitution takes place. The world is an early North
> German loan-word, I think.

I'm not sure how early it can be: according to
<http://www.etymologie.info/~e/d_/de-rotwel.html> and
<http://www.workpage.de/etym.php>, both citing reputable
authorities, <Kneipe> is from Rotwelsche (thieves' Latin),
where it had the sense 'Diebswirtshaus', by way of the
students' slang of the 18th and 19th centuries, where it
acquired the sense 'kleine, gemütliche Schenke' (sometimes
used disparagingly).

Brian