Re: [tied] Alb. djathtë -- Where does the come from? (the sol

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
<alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:

> > Alexandru Marius
> > a) I don't forget, I will search for a second example k^s > c or

at

> > least g^s > th
>
> Only to clarify my position here. I don't reject also a possible
> derivation:
>
> *dek's-wo > djathë
>
> As I have said: we have a 'simple' *dek's- here with a
> termination: -(i)a: or -wo etc...: of course, it is important to

know

> the termination too.
>
> So what I want to add here is that also *dek's-wo will regularly

give

> *djathë based on the known Albanian Rules (so there is no need 'to
> add' 2 new Rules)
>
> *dek's-wo Derivation:
> ======================
> *dek's-wo > [syllable by syllables; o>a] *dek'-swa > [s/w > zero

see

> vajzë, vjehërr, vetë] > Early-PAlb. *dec-wa > [e/in closed syll. >
> ja; k' > c /ts/ ] > Late-PAlb *djac-wa > djathë
>
> I.a. So I could also accept:
> a) s/w > zero
> b) k^ > c > th
> (to go on in two steps only with the known rules)
>
> I.b in place of :
> b) k^s > c > th
>
> Note: The final conclusion if is: I.a or I.b it will depend if I

will

> find or not the second example :)
>
>
> In conclusion: what I put in cause here are Piotr's Rules:
> ==========================================================
> a) k^/s > zero
> b) sw/e > th
> with no other examples in Albanian ....
>
> Best Regards,
> Marius

I have searched again this evening and the single possible other
example that reflects k's or g's in Albanian seems to be (I already
posted it):

II. ith 'behind' < PIE *eg^hs 'out'
=====================================
If the derivation is correct (->the semantism doesn't fit 100%)
we have also :
PIE *g's > dzs > c /ts/ > th

Note: The extended form PIE *eg^hs-to regularly give Alb.
jashtë 'outside' with the rule: PIE *Cst > Alb. sht

Final Note: I couldn't find any other example reflecting the
clusters *k's or *g's in Albanian.


Best Regards,
Marius Alexandru