Re: [tied] Bakkhos etymology

First: Mycean was just a typo, I intended to write Mycenean, obviously.

Second: I put an asterisk because the Mycenean name was e-nu-wa-ri-jo. After this form is deduced the spell Enuwalios, but as Mycenean syllabarium have many possible interpretations for each syllabe, I preferred to put the asterisk.

To relate Ja:nus and Enyalios is necessary to make both as loans from a third language, for example, something like *enwo. After, Latin would turn this name into Ja:nus after influence of ja:nua.

And don´t forget Enyalios seems to be related to Enyo:, a war-goddess and one of the Graiai.

altamix <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "david_russell_watson" <liberty@...> wrote: > That's not just your suggestion, but a known fact. > In fact the older calendar strangely had only ten > months until Januarius and Februarius were added > later on, supposedly by king Numa Pompilius. So we > should expect the names of the two new months to > have come from the Latin language of that time. should we expect it? > > > The name of the month is best represented in the Mycean > > *enuwaliyos > > Assuming that you intend 'Mycenaean' with "Mycean", > why should we prefer this Greek etymology to the > Latin one based on 'Janus'? > How did Pompilius come > by this Greek word, and why would he use Greek in > preference to his own Latin when naming a month? > Did contemporary Greeks use a superior twelve-month > calendar upon whose example the Romans decided to > remodel their own, borrowing a Greek name for one > of the new months in the process? see the name "Iannarils" which looks pretty very appropiated to "enuawalios" > > Why do you put an asterisk in front of 'enuwaliyos' > anyway? What's your source for this word and what's > it actually supposed to mean? the asterix was a mistake. I guess Joao gave already details about "enuwaliyos". > > I don't see any connection here with "portal" and Janus for the > 11- > > th month of the year. Does someone know this connection? > > The connection is to the *god* Janus, to whom king > Pompilius was supposedly dedicating the new month. > > David "was supposedly" is saying just we have to deal with a supposition. I sustained the name of the month could derive from "Ares" and not from "Janus". My reasons are here: - there is in Rom. the old name for Januar which is "Gherar"; if one will insiste the Gherar is derived from "Januarius" one should look for something better to do. If one consider Januar & Gerar do not have anything to do with each other, then one is wrong in this assumtion. Presumabely the word was an prefix + arius.If this "arius" derives from an older "*alius", that is what one should try to find out. After all, the Greeks sustained the "Ares" should be a Thracian good and we do know about intervocalic "l" > "r" in some languages. Assuming the "*aliyos" is a name, would in this case the Mycenian enuw-aliyos would make any sense? what should be "enow-" mean here? Alex Alex

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