[tied] Re: *ap-/*up-/*ip- , rivers in -r, JURA, JARA

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Kim Bastin <kimb@...> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:39:14 -0000, Peter P wrote:
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> >--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "whetex_lewx" <whetex_lewx@...>

wrote:

> >>
> >> Have anybody thoughts about Baltic jura - the sea. Also in Baltic
> >> territory are some hydronyms: rivers Jara, Jura and etc...
> >>
> >> Juru'oti - to welter, to wave.
> >>
> >> RugiuN laukas juruoja - the field of rye is waving.
> >>
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> >...

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> >Finnish, järvi is probably from this source.
> >Lithuanian, jáura (swamp).
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> That has been suggested, but the Finnish word has cognates outside
> Balto-Finnic (Saami, Mordvin, Mari), so it's by no means a necessary
> conclusion.
>
> Kim Bastin

Yes, my use of the word 'probably' may have been a little strong. I
notice that there is more than one oppinion and even a suggestion of a
reconstructed protoword *järvä.

So these words may be a coincidence also. Are there cognates outside
Baltic? Oh, I guess that was the original question.

Peter P