From: Joao
Message: 34774
Date: 2004-10-19
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From: "alex" <alxmoeller@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Derivations 15 sun
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> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
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> > The root of word <eagle> is n-steme noun *H3er-(e)n-, that yields >
> > *or-(e)n-. attested in Hitt. nom. haras `id.', acc. hara-na-an, gen.
> > ha-ra-na-as, that explains the presence of laryngal /*H3/. The
> > ending -s could be added later, as testifies got. ara < *H3ero(n).
> > Hitt. nom. pl. ha-a-ra-ni-is, got. nom. pl. arans are from PIE
> > plural *H3eron-es. Greek has extended forms <orn-i-s> for m. and f.
> > and n. <orneon> `bird'.
> > Celtic preform was *oriros without -n suffix.
> > Snk. <irar> (and <ilar> with dissimilation r.r > l.r from *iroros <
> > *ororos with shift of /*o/ to /*i/.
> > OChS has <orilu>, rus <orël> `eagle' from *orilos. In Baltic branch
> > we find lit. <erelis> with dialectal form <are:lis>, pruss.
> > <arelis>), Latv. <e:rglis>, all with meaning `eagle'.
> > In Armenian Bible text we find <oror> for Greek <laron> for hebraic
> > <shahaf> `crow'. (Bjorvand-Lindeman, VAEO, pp. 1089-1090.)
> > I wander if the Alb. <orë> `fate', <orëprerë> `unlucky', <njeri me
> > orë> `lucky man', <trim me orë> `brave man', < i ha orën> `to make
> > someone weak', <Ora e Kelemendit, e Shalës.> `The Patron of the
> > tribe Clementis, Shala.' (see <aar> in German compound
> > <Edelaar/Adler>, <Fischarr>, <Mausaar>) could also take part in this
> > root, taking into account that birds name are related to fate (cf.
> > *kob- `be succesful', that derives in Eng. hap, happen, happy, but
> > in Sl. <kobH `(mis)fortune, augurium', <koban> `ghoulish', entered
> > also in other Balkan languages; Alb. <shkabë> ` black eagle',
> > probably contaminated by *kopso- `id.', Sl. <kobac> `accipiter
> > nisus' .).
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> > Konushevci
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> see Romanian "erete" (merlin), unkn. etym.
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> Alex
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