Re: [tied] Re: Derivations 15 sun

From: alex
Message: 34773
Date: 2004-10-19

Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
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> The root of word <eagle> is n-steme noun *H3er-(e)n-, that yields >
> *or-(e)n-. attested in Hitt. nom. haras `id.', acc. hara-na-an, gen.
> ha-ra-na-as, that explains the presence of laryngal /*H3/. The
> ending -s could be added later, as testifies got. ara < *H3ero(n).
> Hitt. nom. pl. ha-a-ra-ni-is, got. nom. pl. arans are from PIE
> plural *H3eron-es. Greek has extended forms <orn-i-s> for m. and f.
> and n. <orneon> `bird'.
> Celtic preform was *oriros without -n suffix.
> Snk. <irar> (and <ilar> with dissimilation r.r > l.r from *iroros <
> *ororos with shift of /*o/ to /*i/.
> OChS has <orilu>, rus <or�l> `eagle' from *orilos. In Baltic branch
> we find lit. <erelis> with dialectal form <are:lis>, pruss.
> <arelis>), Latv. <e:rglis>, all with meaning `eagle'.
> In Armenian Bible text we find <oror> for Greek <laron> for hebraic
> <shahaf> `crow'. (Bjorvand-Lindeman, VAEO, pp. 1089-1090.)
> I wander if the Alb. <or�> `fate', <or�prer�> `unlucky', <njeri me
> or�> `lucky man', <trim me or�> `brave man', < i ha or�n> `to make
> someone weak', <Ora e Kelemendit, e Shal�s.> `The Patron of the
> tribe Clementis, Shala.' (see <aar> in German compound
> <Edelaar/Adler>, <Fischarr>, <Mausaar>) could also take part in this
> root, taking into account that birds name are related to fate (cf.
> *kob- `be succesful', that derives in Eng. hap, happen, happy, but
> in Sl. <kobH `(mis)fortune, augurium', <koban> `ghoulish', entered
> also in other Balkan languages; Alb. <shkab�> ` black eagle',
> probably contaminated by *kopso- `id.', Sl. <kobac> `accipiter
> nisus' .).
>
> Konushevci


see Romanian "erete" (merlin), unkn. etym.

Alex