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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:32:28 -0700 (PDT), Sean Whalen
> <stlatos@...> wrote:
>
> >--- Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:31:09 -0700 (PDT), Sean
> >> Whalen
> >> <stlatos@...> wrote:
> The "eagle" words are: Arm. oror, urur, Grk. ornis, Gmc.
> *arnu-, *aran-, Lith. ere~lis, are~lis, OCS orIlI, Hitt.
> haras, G. haran-as. As can readily be seen, some are based
> on the old nominative (*h2óro:l + -os > Arm. *órul >
> oror/urur) some on the accusative (*h2orlm./*h2ornm. > Gmc.
> *arnum > nom. *arnuz, Slav. *orlim > nom. *orlih), some on
> the old oblique (*h2arn-: Hitt. haran-, Gmc. *aran-)
>
> >Are any of the above changes confined to this word?
>
> No, the above words follow the regular soundlaws.
>
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...
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The root of word <eagle> is n-steme noun *H3er-(e)n-, that yields >
*or-(e)n-. attested in Hitt. nom. haras `id.', acc. hara-na-an, gen.
ha-ra-na-as, that explains the presence of laryngal /*H3/. The
ending s could be added later, as testifies got. ara < *H3ero(n).
Hitt. nom. pl. ha-a-ra-ni-is, got. nom. pl. arans are from PIE
plural *H3eron-es. Greek has extended forms <orn-i-s> for m. and f.
and n. <orneon> `bird'.
Celtic preform was *oriros without n suffix.
Snk. <irar> (and <ilar> with dissimilation r
r > l
r from *iroros <
*ororos with shift of /*o/ to /*i/.
OChS has <orilu>, rus <orël> `eagle' from *orilos. In Baltic branch
we find lit. <erelis> with dialectal form <are:lis>, pruss.
<arelis>), Latv. <e:rglis>, all with meaning `eagle'.
In Armenian Bible text we find <oror> for Greek <laron> for hebraic
<shahaf> `crow'. (Bjorvand-Lindeman, VAEO, pp. 1089-1090.)
I wander if the Alb. <orë> `fate', <orëprerë> `unlucky', <njeri me
orë> `lucky man', <trim me orë> `brave man', < i ha orën> `to make
someone weak', <Ora e Kelemendit, e Shalës
> `The Patron of the
tribe Clementis, Shala
' (see <aar> in German compound
<Edelaar/Adler>, <Fischarr>, <Mausaar>) could also take part in this
root, taking into account that birds name are related to fate (cf.
*kob- `be succesful', that derives in Eng. hap, happen, happy, but
in Sl. <kobH `(mis)fortune, augurium', <koban> `ghoulish', entered
also in other Balkan languages; Alb. <shkabë> ` black eagle',
probably contaminated by *kopso- `id.', Sl. <kobac> `accipiter
nisus' .).
Konushevci