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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, enlil@... wrote:
> Petusek:
> > 1. Kartvelian *xu(s1)t- "5", which is often considered to be a
loan
> > from
> > 2. NC, e.g. Rutul xud, Khinalug pxu, Bats pXi, Kabardin txw?
etc. "5",
>
> Actually, the Semitic connection sounds reasonable when we take
note of
> the fact that three other numbers can also be linked to the same
source.
>
>
> > If M-R was right, I would be able to imagine a similar way in
Etruscan,
> > but we would have to explain the "5" > "4" shift, again.
>
> Why bother? We have a connection between /hutH/ = IE *kWetwor- (MIE
> *kWetWan) and while claiming /hutH/ is "five" is a whim with few
> followers, /hutH/ shows other signs of actually being "four".
>
> And why on goddess' green earth do feel the need to connect Etruscan
> with NEC when there are no other secure connections? The two
languages
> are vastly different... and I guess I need to speak more on that in
> the next post, including some ideas I have.
>
>
> = gLeN
I don't agree. A shift "5" to "4" is improbable and chance
resemblance is often inconsistent.
It's far better to consider /huth/ as belonging to:
NEC Protoform: *he>mq.y
Meaning: four
Nakh Etymology :
Protoform: *=h|iw?
Meaning: four
Chechen: =i?
Ingush: =i?
Batsbi: =?|iw?
Andian Etymology :
Protoform: *=uq.u-
Meaning: four
Avar: unq.:o
Andi: =oGo-gu
Akhvakh: =oq.o-da
Chamalal: =o?u-da
Tindi: =o?o-ja
Karata: =o?o-da
Botlikh: =uG|u-da
Bagvalal: =o:-ra
Godoberi: =u?u-da
Comments: Av. unq.:o < *?unq.-go (cf. the Chad. form).
Tsezian Etymology :
Protoform: *?o~q.e-(no|)
Meaning: four
Tsezi: uj-no
Ginukh: uq.i-no
Khvarshi: u~q.e-n
Inkhokvari: u~q.q.e
Bezhita: o~q.o-na
Gunzib: oq.e-n
Comments: PTsKh *?u~q.e-n(o); PGB *?o~q.e-n(o|) (cf. also Bezht.
Tlad., Khosh. o"q.ena").
Lak Etymology :
Lak: muq.
Meaning: four
Comments: Cf. Khosr. muq.=a id.
Dargwa Etymology :
Protoform: *?aw?a-l (*?aG|w|a-l)
Meaning: four
Akusha: awal
Chiragh: aG|w|al
Lezghian Etymology :
Protoform: *jewq.y-
Meaning: four
Lezghi: q.u-d
Tabasaran: juq.u-b
Agul: jaq.u-d
Rutul: juq.u-d
Tsakhur: joq.u-lle
Kryz: juq.u-d
Budukh: juq.u-d
Archi: ebq., ebq.a-
Udi: bip:
Comments: Cf. also Lezg. Khl. q.u-d, Tab. Kand. jaq.u-b . Ud. bip: <
*wiq.w| < *jewq.. An analogous metathesised form is reflected in
Arch. buq.i < *weq.w|y-j 'fourty'.
Khinalug Etymology :
Khinalug: unG|
Meaning: four