Re: [tied] Etruscan numerals

From: enlil@... To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com

>Petusek:
>> 1. Kartvelian *xu(s1)t- "5", which is often considered to be a loan
>> from
>> 2. NC, e.g. Rutul xud, Khinalug pxu, Bats pXi, Kabardin txw? etc. "5",
>
>Actually, the Semitic connection sounds reasonable when we take note of
>the fact that three other numbers can also be linked to the same source.

I agree.

>> If M-R was right, I would be able to imagine a similar way in Etruscan,
>> but we would have to explain the "5" > "4" shift, again.

= if, then
= I don't think this is possible

>Why bother? We have a connection between /hutH/ = IE *kWetwor- (MIE
>*kWetWan) and while claiming /hutH/ is "five" is a whim with few
>followers, /hutH/ shows other signs of actually being "four".

Of course, but we may discuss other thoughts without agreeing with them.
Especially, when Marco says he doesn't "believe in Indo-Tyrrhenian", why,
then, not ask him to be more specific? I only list some other people's
assumptions, views, ideas, to find out if abny of those is what he means.

>And why on goddess' green earth do feel the need to connect Etruscan
>with NEC when there are no other secure connections? The two languages
>are vastly different... and I guess I need to speak more on that in
>the next post, including some ideas I have.

Well, I perfectly agree.

As for the semantics of "5" > "4" (or v.v.), I've been too buy to look for
any examples, yet. Howevers, there are some languages (don't ask me where,
when or which) forming "4" < "lesser 5"/"lesser fist"/"lesser hand" or sim.
in the world, aren't they....? I may be wrong, though...

Petusek