Re: Why borrow 'seven'? (was: IE right & 10)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Exu Yangi" <exuyangi@...> wrote:

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> >From: "petusek" <petusek@...>
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> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Harald Hammarström
> >To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 6:15 PM
> >Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Why borrow 'seven'? (was: IE right & 10)
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> > >> If you compare fitö & futa, the common pattern is not only /f-

/, but

> >also
> > >> /fVt-/, this looks like "internal apophony", doesn't it?
> > >> Duality is a very common effect in creating numerals,
> > >
> > >Is it?? I don't think so. Do you know more examples?
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> Yir Yoront (Western Australia) 1-8
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> yirr
> koyrr
> wapayrr
> morrmaq
> yorthelemrr
> pulkoyrr
> yorthelemrr
> yormart

The higher Yir Yoront are:

'7' yorthelemrr yormart koyrr
'8' yorthelemrr yormart morrmaq
'9' yorthelemrr yormart morrmaq
'10' yorkoyrr
- a quinary system with a suppletive word for six. (Curious,
morphemes up to 'six' - someone said that didn't happen! Or has
*pul 'three' gone missing or into hiding in _wapayrr_ '3')

> Oh, and let's not forget Old Japanese (1-10)
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> pitö
> puta
> mi
> yö
> itu
> mu
> nana
> ya
> könönö
> töwo
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> Maybe you get 1-2 out of OJ, but that is about it ...

I trust the 'etc' after 1-2 is missing by accident.

Richard.