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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao" <josimo70@...> wrote:
> What is the etymology of Irish Ler/Welsh Llyr?
> Is there a Proto-Celtic *Liros?
> Is there some PIE etymology?
>
>
> Joao SL
Hello!
I think it existed Proto-Celtic *Liros, but with no PIE etymology.
In NEC there are is a quite suitable protoform:
Protoform: *ja"rl|wi: / *l|wa"(j)ri: (~ -e:)
Meaning: sea
Nakh Etymology :
Protoform: *for-d (~ -t.)
Meaning: sea
Chechen: hord
Ingush: ford
Comments: 6th class in both languages. Abayev (1,485-486) thinks that
the Nakh forms are borrowed from Ossetian (fu:rd / ford 'big river,
sea'). But the Ossetian word has no Iranian or IE etymology (see
Abayev ibid.), whereas the NC etymology of the Nakh word (= Av.
ral|a/d etc.) is quite clear - therefore it is obvious that the
Ossetian word is borrowed from Nakh.
Andian Etymology :
Protoform: *ril|o
Meaning: sea
Avar: ral|a/d
Andi: rel|o
Akhvakh: ral|a
Chamalal: jel|a
Tindi: rel|a
Karata: rel|a
Botlikh: reha
Bagvalal: raha
Godoberi: rel|a
Comments: Av. paradigm B (ral|da/-l, ral|a/da-l; Chad. rata/du-l,
rata/da-l). Cf. also Cham. Gig. rel|a, Bagv. Tlond. relha id. Av. >
Inkh., Tsez., Gin., Bezht., Gunz. ral|ad 'sea'. Arch. l|at (erg.
l|et:e) 'sea' is also most probably an old loan from Avar, although
loss of ra- is not quite clear (perhaps the early loanword first
changed regularly into *dal|at:, and then with reduction changed to
*l^at: > *l|at:).
Lak Etymology :
Lak: x:iri
Meaning: sea
Comments: Cf. Khosr. x:iri id.
Dargwa Etymology :
Protoform: *?urx:w|i
Meaning: sea
Akusha: urxu
Chiragh: urx:u
Comments: Cf. also Tsud., Muir., Sirg. urx:u id.
Abkhaz-Adyghe Etymology :
Protoform: *l|/w|@
Meaning: sea
Abkhaz: a-ms^@/n
Adyghe: x@
Circassian: x@
Ubykh: s^w|a
Comments: PAK *x@. The Abkh. form contains a locative suffix -n(@); m
(@)- is obviously a prefix here, but its precise meaning is not
clear. The correspondence PAT *s^ : PAK *x : Ub. s^w| points to PWC
*l|/w|.
Comments: An interesting common NC geographical term. The PN form
contains a suffixed *-d (with a precise parallel in Av. ral|a/d).