Re: [tied] Re: Czech r^

From: mkapovic@...
Message: 34019
Date: 2004-09-05

>
>>It is not all that different but it's definitely not the same.
>>And r > z^ changes and all the possibilities in between
>>(including Czech r^) are not so uncommon in world languages.
>>
>>Mate
>
> Methinks some kind of [r] in Turkish (and other Turkic
> languages) is quite similar (as a final consonant?).
>
> George

It is similar but I don't think it's so much a question of final
consonants in Turkish. The "z^-ing" (:-)) of r's in Turkish does not
happen only in final position (unlike for instance the devoicing of /r/ in
Macedonian) and I would say it's, at least partially, gender-related.
Women tend to pronounce r's like z^'s more than men.
But in Czech and Polish, the process was different because it was related
only to palatalisation in front of the front vowels.

Mate