Re: [tied] Re: Active / Stative

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:01:21 +0000, elmeras2000
<jer@...> wrote:

>> >> Neither the perfect nor the middle have exclusively
>> >> intransitive semantics in PIE. Generalization of
>> >> incorporated 3rd. p. object to all forms would not be a
>> >> surprising development.
>> >
>> >I would indeed be surprised. You don't prove anything by playing
>> >blasé.
>>
>> You've been talking with Glen too much. Let's stick to the
>> factual arguments.
>
>This is not personal: If I fail to understand something, I would
>like to have it explained so that I do, not just having it stamped
>as not surprising to those who know better but won't or can't
>explain it.

I forgot to explain.

You can compare this with the Romance compound perfect,
which was originally made with <habere> for transitive verbs
(Fr. j'ai lu), <esse> for intransitive verbs (Fr. je suis
venu). In Spanish, the transitive form has been generalized
(he leído, he venido).

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...