latin geminate "ll" ( it was: Re: [tied] Re: *g'(h)- > d as aberran

From: Richard Wordingham
Message: 32555
Date: 2004-05-11

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
> >>> Latin /ll/ is the product of assimilation. Quite a few
sequences
> end
> >>> up this way: *ln (pellis, tollo:), *ls (inf. velle). *ld
> >>
> >> and what about "illus" & co?
> >
> > OLat ollus (*olnos). Reshaped to ille after iste.
> >
> >
> > =======================
> > Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> > mcv@...
>
>
> OLat or OIt? My dictionary speaks just about "ollus" but it does
not
> say any word about *olnos > ollus, thus this is why I asked. I
could
> not find any reference by Szemerenyi in the chapter VIII, II (
> Morphologie, Pronomen und Zahlwort) in his "Einführung in die
> vergleichende Sprachwissenschaft".

Old Latin, not Old Italian. There are Umbrian and Slavic cognates
given in Pokorny - root #53 _ol-, al-_ 'besides, other'. Slavic
*olni looks like the best evidence that Latin /ll/ derives from /ln/.

Richard.