On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:36:51 +0000, elmeras2000
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jer@...> wrote:
>--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
>
>> It is curious that mobile paradigms end-stress the o-stem
>> nom.pl. (sakai~). If I'm not mistaken, end-stress should
>> belong in the sg. nom./voc./gen. [not the abl. > gen. of the
>> o-stems] (what about the instrumental?), and in all the
>> plural except nom. and acc.
>
>Hey, what's curious here? The mobile o-stems have thematic accent in
>Indo-European, so *-óy is inherited.
Doesn't really make it less curious. The nom.sg. form is
unstressed (-as, -ias) even if it, as you say, derives from
*-ós [exception made for the soft *-ijo stems' -y~s], which
is also curious. The acc.pl. *-((i)j)ó:ms always gives
class 3 unstressed -(i)us, despite the etymological ictus.
If the mobile a:-stems also come from PIE áh2-stems accented
on the thematic vowel, them the stress was retracted in the
singular (except N (V), G) *and* in the N and A pl. (*-ãs >
'-os, *-á:ms > '-as).
So what's the explanation for this strange behaviour of the
o-stems? All the other nouns (a:-stems, i-stems, u-stems,
C-stems), when mobile, show the accent pattern:
sg. begin-stressed, except N (V), G sg.
pl. end-stressed, except N, A pl.
The o-stems do not have a G.sg., so that perhaps explains
the begin-stress on the whole sg. (except class 3/4 -y~s,
which also is curious). But why didn't the mobile nom.pl.
follow suit and retracted its stress?
>The old ending is that of the
>adjectives gerì, geríe-ji which is acute just like Gk. mikroí.
Yes, that's what I was assuming.
>> How did the pronouns get their -íe?
>
>That's the old form. One may note by the way that it became
>circumflex in BSl. monosyllables as seen in tie~ (Slov. tî).
We had already noted that.
But the question is: how did N.pl. *toy (> *taí) become *tíe
(> tie~)? Could it be that *-eí was borrowed from the
pronouns of the type *ey, *k^ey (> jie~, s^ie~)? Yes, but
since /ie/ can also come directly from *ai (e.g. vienas), I
don't think that's a necessary conclusion.
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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...