Re: Arminius/Hermann

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> 16-04-2004 15:01, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> > Aha. And truncated from?
>
> Something like *sigiz-gastiz > *sigistiz by haplology, for example.
>
> >> That's precisely why I'm sure we have the same initial element

in

> >> Segimerus and Segistes.
> >>
> >
> > Not only Germanic.
>
> No. There are also similar Celtic names, with the Celtic cognate
> *sego(s)- 'victory'. As for the similar "Illyrian" names, we have

really

> no clue what they meant. There is no independent evodence for

connecting

> them with the *seg^H- root. Anyway, the Siggy brothers were

Germanic, so

> if a Germanic etymology is available, it takes precedence over

anything

> more exotic (Ockham).
>
> Piotr

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It's true that we haven't until now any convinced etymology of
Illyrian place name Segeste, but we have of many similar ones:
Bigeste, Tergeste and of many other Albanians names: <vëne-
shtë> 'wine-yard', noun derived of <venë/verë> 'wine', <vje(l)-
shtë> 'autumn' from verb <vjel> 'to gather', <a(h)-shtë> 'beech-
wood', derived form <ah> 'beech', <bre(dh)-shtë> 'fir-wood', noun
derived from <bredh> 'fir', etc.
So, we may deduce that suffix -steh2 is very common and familiar as
in Illyrian, as well as in Albanian.

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