Re: [tied] The disappearance of *-s -- The saga continues

From: enlil@...
Message: 31955
Date: 2004-04-16

>>But "r" is in many cases in Quebec rolled with the apex of
>>your tongue, not just uvular as is the norm in Europe.
>
> Yes. And it's alveolar, not dental.

Alright yes. I admit the site is crap but I didn't go to that
site... you did :)


> No, I'm saying that there can be incorrect stuff on
> University websites, wherever the University is located.

Granted but that site looked immediately dubious from the colour
scheme :)


> Perhaps. That doesn't justify calling /t/, /d/ alveolar, or
> [s], [z], [l] dental "en français". They're usually dental
> and alveolar, respectively.

Yes, alright but when I pronounce /ce/ in French, I say it with
the apex of my tongue so if other people are saying the same,
then it's not just my imagination... French /s/ is dental.

The question is what the overall tendency in French is and what
is the tendency of different locales. You won't offer much to
say on Manitoban French, I don't think, which is the variety
of French that would have influenced my pronunciation the most,
if anything.


= gLeN