Re: [tied] Re: Accusative was allative

26-03-2004 19:42, Âàäèì Ïîíàðÿäîâ wrote:

>
> > But Polish ów expresses 3-deixis.
>
> It is easy to explain a change from 1/2-deixis to 3-deixis: "this near
> me" > "this" > "he/she/it".
>
> > In any case, these are all innovations. The original Slavic
> > system was sI "this", tU "that", onU (oblique je-) "that
> > yonder". The pronoun ovU.. ovU ( = Greek ho mèn .. ho dé,
> > "the one .. the other", "this one .. that one") stood
> > outside of the system, and was by its nature available to
> > substitute for a lost <sI> (as in Serbo-Croatian or
> > Macedonian), or for a lost [=> personal pronoun] <onU> (as
> > in Polish).

Just a couple of centuries ago Polish <on> was still used as a
demonstrative (more or less = 'this, that' without much distal force),
while <ten> 'this here' and <ów> 'that over there' were used to express
proximity or distance (traces of *sI could be found only in fixed
expressions, like <do siego roku> still used for 'happy New Year', but
not really understood).

> This is the system of Church Slavonic, but the Proto-Slavic was wider.
> Some more traces of *vU: Rus. vot "here is...", von "there is..." <
> *vU-tU, vU-nU.

Isn't this prothetic *v before *o? Cf. Polish <ot>, <oto> 'here is',
archaic <ono>, <owo> 'there is'.

Piotr